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		<title>IBN Lokmat and IBN7 offices attacked by Shiv Sena activists</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[IBN Lokmat and IBN7 offices were attacked by Shiv Sena activists in Vikhroli, Mumbai today.
At around 4 PM, a group of 15-25 Shiv Sena activists armed with sticks and baseball bats barged into the office of IBN7 Hindi news channel and the IBN Lokmat Marathi TV channel and attacked journalists and employees. The female receptionist [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IBN Lokmat and IBN7 offices were attacked by Shiv Sena activists in Vikhroli, Mumbai today.<span id="more-325"></span></p>
<p>At around 4 PM, a group of 15-25 Shiv Sena activists armed with sticks and baseball bats barged into the office of IBN7 Hindi news channel and the IBN Lokmat Marathi TV channel and attacked journalists and employees. The female receptionist was slapped, and the Shiv Sena men went around looking for Nikhil Wagle, editor of IBN Lokmat. They threw a chair at him and slapped him. Reports also say that several women journalists were also attacked. LCD TVs and computers were trashed, chairs were toppled and glass panels were broken.</p>
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<p>Many of the attackers escaped before the police arrived. However, it seems that the IBN journalists and technical staff counterattacked, and 7 of the attackers were caught and handed over to the police.</p>
<div id="attachment_326" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 440px"><img class="size-full wp-image-326" title="shiv-sena-ibn-lokmat-attack" src="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/shiv-sena-ibn-lokmat-attack.jpg" alt="Photo: IBN Lokmat, IBN7 offices after Shiv Sena attack" width="430" height="274" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo: IBN Lokmat, IBN7 offices after Shiv Sena attack</p></div>
<p>Shiv Sena MP and editor of the Sena newspaper Saamna told reporters that it was a spontaneous attack, and as the people who attacked said they were Shiv Sainiks&#8217; he was accepting it. He justified the attacks saying that the IBN7 and IBN Lokmat channels were consistently biased against the Shiv Sena. He also said that the attacks were justified, as the TV channels attacked <a href="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/bal-thackeray-fumes-at-sachin-tendulkar-bjp-and-other-parties-support-him/">Bal Thackery over his Saamna editorial criticising Sachin Tendulkar</a> for saying that Mumbai was for everyone, and that he was an Indian first. &#8220;Media is not God&#8211;criticism of Balasaheb Thackeray will not be tolerated,&#8221; said Sanjay Raut. &#8220;If you target Sena, we will attack. Criticism of Sena is also criticism of Marathi Manoos.&#8221;</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 440px"><a href="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/bal-thackeray-photo.jpg"><img title="Photo: Shiv Sena chieftain Bal Thackeray" src="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/bal-thackeray-photo.jpg" alt="Photo: Shiv Sena chieftain Bal Thackeray" width="430" height="291" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Photo: Shiv Sena chieftain Bal Thackeray</p></div>
<p>IBN Lokmat editor Nikhil Wagle said that he believes that Sanjay Raut organised the attacks. He said that this was not a spontaneous attack, and it was pre-planned.</p>
<p>One of the Shiv Sena&#8217;s grievances was that Nikhil Wagle has been insulting Bal Thackeray and Marathi sentiments by calling Bal Thackeray, the Shiv Sena chieftain, an &#8220;old man&#8221;. It did not look like Nikhil Wagle was in any mood to give in, though, even after the attacks. Speaking to the media, he repeated the phrase, saying &#8220;&#8221;Bal Thackeray has become old. Uddhav Thackeray has lost control over Sena and elements like Raut are flourishing in that party.&#8221; It should be noted that many Maharashtrians believe that Sanjay Raut has been penning editorials in Saamna which go under the name of Bal Thackeray, damaging Marathi sentiment. For example, post the <a href="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/maharashtra-assembly-elections-2009-congress-ncp-talks-on-seat-sharing-progressing/">Maharashtra Assembly election</a> loss, Saamna editorial ostensibly written by Bal Thackeray said that he did not trust Maharashtrians anymore, and that they had stabbed him in the back by voting for Raj Thackeray&#8217;s MNS and thereby enabling Congress and NCP to win.</p>
<p>Nikhil Wagle has been aggressive in attacking the Sena brand of politics, and the Sena has never taken kindly to criticism, especially of its ageing leader. He said that the Shiv Sena has attacked Marathi sentiments by attacking a Marathi TV channel.</p>
<p>The Shiv Sena has often said criticism of Bal Thackeray would not be allowed. Bal Thackeray is ageing, and he is becoming something of a holy cow for the Shiv Sena. Raj Thackeray, who split from the Shiv Sena and set up his own party &#8211; the <a href="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/society/maharashtra-navnirman-sena.asp">Maharashtra Navnirman Sena (MNS)</a> &#8211; too refused to comment on Bal Thackeray&#8217;s editorial which was critical of Sachin Tendulkar. In 2005, the Shiv Sena reacted violently every time there was any impolite mention or criticism of Shivaji. In 2009, it seems Bal Thackeray too cannot be criticised in Maharashtra.</p>
<p>CNN-IBN&#8217;s editor in chief, <a href="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/media/rajdeep-sardesai-tv-18.asp">Rajdeep Sardesai</a>, came on TV soon after the attacks and said that media has been increasingly facing such attacks, and blamed the Shiv Sena for the attack on IBN7 and IBN Lokmat. He said that the attacks marked a new low in Maharashtra politics.</p>
<p>Deputy commissioner of police RM Vhatkar said: &#8220;The arrested men have been booked for assault and rioting. We are on the lookout for the others.&#8221; He did not say whether the arrested men were indeed Shiv Sena men.</p>
<p>Criticism of the attacks came in immediately from Maharashtra Chief Minister Ashok Chavan, who said that those arrested would be dealt with harshly. He said that the attacks on the IBN7 and IBN Lokmat TV channels showed the frustration of Shiv Sena after losing Assembly elections. NCP Chief Sharad Pawar said that strong action should be taken against those who attacked media.</p>
<p>CNN-IBN said that the attackers claimed they were agitated over misquoting Bal Thackeray. Thackeray&#8217;s criticism of Sachin Tendulkar did not go down well with most politicians and across India, and it is likely that the IBN channels were declaring that disgust, which obviously was not to Shiv Sena&#8217;s liking.</p>
<p>There were two other incidents of attacks by Shiv Sena &#8211; the IBN office in Pune was attacked, and an outdoor broadcast van of the channel was also not spared.</p>
<p>In 2008, senior journalist Kumar Ketkar&#8217;s house was also attacked by those claiming to be angered by his comments about a proposed Shivaji statue. He told the media political parties indulge in violence because they are certain of getting away.</p>
<p>Rahul Narvekar, the head of Shiv Sena&#8217;s legal cell refused to apologise for the attacks when asked, and said that his party would always defend Marathi pride.</p>
<div class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 360px"><img title="Raj Thackerays MNS rise has unnerved the Sena" src="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/raj-thackeray-mns.jpg" alt="Raj Thackerays MNS rise has unnerved the Sena" width="350" height="281" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Raj Thackeray&#39;s MNS&#39; rise has unnerved the Shiv Sena, which has had the Marathi Manoos plank stolen from its creator.</p></div>
<p>There has been no reaction from Shiv Sena ally BJP, which has often been embarrassed by the violent behaviour and obvious justifications of such violence by Shiv Sena. As a national party which needs the Shiv Sena to have a foothold in Maharashtra, it has always found it convenient to close its eyes to Shiv Sena&#8217;s parochial and violent behaviour.</p>
<p>The Shiv Sena has always made it clear that they would not stay away from violence if they think their leaders or the pride of Maharashtra was offended by anyone. It is obviously not a defender of press freedom, and has never claimed to be so.</p>
<p>All this comes right on the heels of the recent <a href="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/post-mns-slapping-and-sena-protest-abu-asim-azmi-life-under-threat-sp-leader-amar-singh/">slapping of SP MP Abu Asim Azmi by MNS legislators in the Maharashtra assembly</a>, senior Thackeray&#8217;s editorial against Sachin Tendulkar, and yesterday&#8217;s editorial in the Saamna which proudly claimed that those who <a href="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/liberhan-commission-report-on-babri-masjid-demolition-likely-to-be-tabled-in-parliament-in-december/">demolished the Babri Masjid</a> were Shiv Sainiks, and exhorted all Hindus in India to unite against Muslims. Bal Thackeray has always been caught between Marathi chauvinism and Hindu chauvinism, never really able to make a choice while his nephew Raj has positioned himself as the champion of Maharashtrian rights above all &#8211; and so far, that seems to be working, making the Shiv Sena and Bal Thackeray ill-at-ease.</p>
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		<title>The Versace terrorist is captured: &#8220;Put me on saline, I don&#8217;t want to die!&#8221;</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 13:34:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember the face of terror from Day 1, the one in the Versace t-shirt? He does not want to die.

Azam Amir Qasab, the 21-year-old terrorist who caused havoc at the Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus killing many, on November 26, 2008, is the only terrorist to have been captured by the Mumbai police. Azam Amir Qasab has [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember the face of terror from Day 1, the one in the Versace t-shirt? He does not want to die.</p>
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<p>Azam Amir Qasab, the 21-year-old terrorist who caused havoc at the Chhatrapati Shivaji terminus killing many, on November 26, 2008, is the only terrorist to have been captured by the Mumbai police. Azam Amir Qasab has said, in a statement given at the DB Marg (Lamington Road) police station, that he was trained by the marine wing of the Lashkar-e-Tayiba (LeT) in Pakistan for two years, and was asked to cause maximum casualties in Mumbai, and also blow up the Taj.</p>
<div id="attachment_39" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 420px"><img class="size-full wp-image-39" title="mumbai-terrorist-cst" src="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mumbai-terrorist-cst.jpg" alt="The first pic from security cameras at CST station, Mumbai" width="410" height="330" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The first pic from security cameras at CST station, Mumbai</p></div>
<p>The first pictures of the Mumbai terror attacks showed Azam Amir Qasab walking outside the Mumbai CST station, holding what looked like an AK-47 and wearing a dark tee with &#8216;Versace&#8217; lettering on it. His face was caught on a security camera. Later photos of <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/armed-police-would-not-fire-back-ndash-i-wish-id-had-a-gun-not-a-camera-1040238.html">Mumbai Mirror&#8217;s Sebastian D&#8217;Souza</a> showed him casually gesturing (possibly to the other terrorist) inside the CST station in the middle of the carnage.</p>
<p>The photographer said that he was a bit far away, the two terrorists probably noticed him taking their pictures but did not seem concerned.</p>
<p>After he was captured, initially he pretended to be dead, and later was arrested when the cops noticed he was alive. Police sources said that he panicked when he later saw the mutilated body of the slain terrorist, and shouted, &#8220;I do not want to die, put me on saline.&#8221;</p>
<p>Reports have said that in his statement, Qasab revealed all the details of the operation. He said that the LeT had trained fifteen men for the operation for three months, in Muzzafarabad in Pakistan. After a one-month break, they were trained how to hijack vessels at sea. They were given digital maps of Mumbai.</p>
<p>He also said that the group was led to believe that they would return on November 27, 2008.</p>
<p>A return route had been stored on the GPS device that the terrorist group that used to reach Mumbai by sea.</p>
<p>Azam Amir Qasab said that bombs had been planted in the Taj Mahal hotel long ago. He also said that he booked a room in the Taj to store explosives.</p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-38 alignnone" title="mumbai-terrorist-arrested" src="http://www.dancewithshadows.com/politics/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mumbai-terrorist-arrested.jpg" alt="" width="282" height="475" /></p>
<p>The ground work for the operation was laid four months ago when a recce of all the targets were conducted by the terrorist group. The whole group of terrorists had fake Indian identity cards, and they posed as students.</p>
<p>The operation began with 15 terrorists landing in Mumbai in a boat from Karachi, carrying explosives, inflatable rafts, and weapons.</p>
<p>Then at Porbandar, the group of terrorists hijacked an Indian fishing trawler. The men in the trawler were forced to sit in the terrorist&#8217;s boat and sent to Karachi, when the boat headed back. The terrorists then took control of the trawler and kept one member of the trawler&#8217;s crew hostage, who was later killed just before the group landed in Mumai.</p>
<p>The group was split into two batches. One landed on Sassoon Dock, and the other landed at Badhwar Park in Cuffe Parade in their inflatable dinghies.</p>
<p>Azam Amir Qasab with Abu Ismail Dera Ismail Khan went to CST where they fired indiscriminately at commuters. They then headed to Rang Bhavan.</p>
<p>In the meantime, ATS chief Hemant Karkare along with encounter specialist Vijay Salaskar, and additional commissioner Ashok Kampte took a police Qualis vehicle and went towards Cama Hospital.</p>
<p>Around the corner of Rang Bhavan, Azam Amir Qasab and Abu Ismail Dera Ismail Khan fired at the vehicle and killed the policemen in the Qualis.</p>
<p>The two then got into the Qualis and moved towards Metro cinema with Qasab driving and Abu Ismail shooting at the police chasing them.  A tyre of the Qualis was punctured; the two then hijacked a Skoda throwing out the occupants of the car.</p>
<p>They were stopped at a police check point, where Ismail Khan was shot dead and Qasab was captured. Here, Azam shot dead assistant police inspector Tukaram Umbale before his capture.</p>
<p>An injured Qasab was taken to Nair Hospital, and subsequently moved to another government hospital. Qasab was interrogated by the ATS and he kept saying that he didn&#8217;t want to die and that he should be put on saline. He also showed no remorse and said that he had done right.</p>
<p>Azam Amir Qasab belongs to Faridkot in the Chipaalpura taluka of Ukhad zilla in Pakistan.</p>
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		<title>Shobhaa De on Raj Thackeray, MNS and Maharashtra</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recently Shobhaa De made an appearance on Karan Thapar&#8217;s Devil&#8217;s Advocate and had a few answers to questions from Karan about the MNS, Raj Thackeray, Mumbai vs Bombay etc etc. I did  not catch the interview on TV, but came across the transcript on the Cnn-IBN website.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recently Shobhaa De made an appearance on Karan Thapar&#8217;s Devil&#8217;s Advocate and had a few answers to questions from Karan about the MNS, Raj Thackeray, Mumbai vs Bombay etc etc. I did  not catch <a href="http://ibnlive.in.com/news/devils-advocate-shobhaa-de-on-mumbai-vs-bombay/76806-3-single.html">the interview</a> on TV, but came across the transcript on the Cnn-IBN website.</p>
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<p><strong>This article is critical of Shobhaa De. But that does mean that I am against Maharashtrians. If your brain is so small, you should not be on this site anyway. I personally believe that Maharashtrians&#8217; economic status, jobs and culture &#8211; all are important issues under threat. And I would write about my suggestions for them too. But this is specific to the interview.</strong></p>
<p>Karan Thapar was, as usual, banal. Perhaps the medium demands it, but I can&#8217;t believe these silly, black or white questions are the best that he can come up with.</p>
<p>Shobhaa De disappointed me, though. She had stuff to say, sure, but not much of that would stand up to scrutiny in my opinion.</p>
<p>I say this as a Malayali who landed in Mumbai in 1994, slowly moved up in life, had to deal with a lot of Maharashtrians and made friends with quite a few of them.</p>
<p>Still her understanding of the issues seem peripheral to me; with or without MNS and Raj Thackeray.</p>
<p><strong>Upcoming articles</strong></p>
<ul>
<li>Where is the sensible Maharashtrian leader with a vision?</li>
<li>Pride and economy are two issues</li>
<li>The costs and benefits of a cosmopolitan city &#8211; do Maharashtrians really want one?</li>
</ul>
<p>First, let me go through the interview and try to intersperse my comments wherever I think she has got it wrong.</p>
<h1>Maharashtrians last and everyone else first?</h1>
<blockquote><p>Karan Thapar: &#8230; Today, when people come from outside Maharashtra to live in Mumbai, do they have as much a claim on the city as Maharashtrians or is it Maharashtrians first and everyone afterwards?</p>
<p>Shobhaa De: In fact it’s quite to the contrary – it’s Maharashtrians’ last and everyone else’s first. I don’t blame the ‘everybody else’ and I don’t look at them as outsiders. I think Maharashtrians need to do a great deal of inward thinking and inward looking to figure out for themselves as to why the city’s complexion has changed the way it has and why it has been hijacked – in their minds – by outsiders who are laying claim to it.</p></blockquote>
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<p>I have a problem with that first line. That is typical defeatist thinking. <strong>Everybody else is not first, and Maharashtrians are surely not last in Mumbai. </strong>If you are poor or lower-middle class like how I was when I landed in Mumbai, the Maharashtrians you meet are often rude, impolite, make sarcastic remarks about your Hindi (or the lack of it, and Marathi too).</p>
<p>I have seen several taxi drivers and security guards complaining of bad behaviour from Maharashtrians. Things change the higher up you go. At the socially and financially higher levels of society, there are no Maharashtrians in any significant number to be rude to you. As I earned more money, I could divorce myself from the Maharashtrian-dominated lower classes and move to the upper middle class levels in society where interaction with Maharashtrians was lesser. So, if we are talking about the North Indians and their life in Mumbai, they deal with Maharashtrians &#8211; hotel waiters, peons, labourers, cops &#8211; and they are definitely have a bad time.</p>
<p>Shobhaa De also says, &#8216;It has been hijacked in their minds.&#8221; She means Mumbai. She is right, and she is wrong. How so?</p>
<p>If you look at Mumbai, the population of Mumbai is largely non-Maharashtrian. So population-wise, Mumbai has been hijacked. In what other sense? Culturally? But when was culturally Mumbai a city of Maharashtrians? It never was. Despite being the capital, it was never the <strong>cultural capital of Maharashtra. That was Pune</strong>. This was a British city, where a lot of people moved into, including Maharashtrians. But outsiders who came were more dynamic &#8211; as most Maharashtrians would admit &#8211; and took over business and enterprise, while the less enterprising, culturally oriented Maharashtrians could not afford to live in a more and more extensive city and slowly started moving out to the suburbs.</p>
<h2>Jobs for Maharashtrians</h2>
<p>Later, Shobaa De says this,&#8221; I am definitely saying that Maharashtrians are getting a raw deal in Mumbai.&#8221;</p>
<p>In some ways, this might be true. Especially in the case of Railways. But I am yet to make up my mind on it. Maharashtrians say Railways conspire to ensure Maharashtrians do not enter railways, and do not advertise job openings and tests in local newspapers. I have heard that that it is just propaganda. I do not know the truth, but this has to be investigated. The latest exams, where MNS activists beat up Bihari and UP students, <em>were</em> advertised in Lokmat and Loksatta. So that particular protest was just an excuse. But it is possible, and preference to locals in unskilled jobs should be given. Why not? I think there are existing laws for that anyway. But then, it also depends on whether a lot of Maharashtrians are available to fill those jobs. The average Maharashtrian is not interested in low level jobs, while the poor Maharashtrian is in the villages.</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Shobhaa De:</strong> They are too laid back and also there’s a certain intellectual arrogance which means Maharashtrians will not do the kind of jobs like <em>dhobis</em> (washermen), <em>darbans</em> (attendants), <em>bhel-puri waala</em> (street-food shop owner), taxi driver – which they consider, may be, a little demeaning and beneath themselves. But there are articulate, intelligent, educated Maharashtrians who are also not getting a shot at jobs. I can really understand their peeve too.</p></blockquote>
<h2>Maharashrians are beginning to exploit Mumbai&#8217;s opportunities, finally</h2>
<p>Not all Maharashtrians are laid back. I know many who are doing well. While one can figure out they are not really comfortable with the cut-and-thrust and job-hopping of the new economy, they do it well enough to reap the benefits. Shiv Sena leaders themselves were reported in the media often saying that &#8220;our boys do not want to do service jobs&#8221; like a salesman&#8217;s job. But I object when she says that articulate, intelligent Maharashtrians are not getting jobs.</p>
<p>I came across the educated Maharashtrian only when I joined a company where the majority of employees were Maharashtrian. Now, this company was owned by a Punjabi &#8211; a lot of the senior guys were from across the country. But most jobs easily went to the local Marathi boys and girls. Why? These were the articulate, skilled, capable boys and girls &#8211; and it was easier to find them! You just had to ask one Maharashtrian employee if he knew anyone who was good enough for a specific job, and he would definitely bring you some good people.</p>
<p>When I made friends with Maharashtrian colleagues, I also noticed that if they were smart and articulate, the entire spectrum of jobs in Mumbai became open to them. They were as good as they wanted to be. I personally think these Marathi boys and girls were really good, and the younger ones would be even better. So they were slow in learning to exploit the financial capital of India, but that won&#8217;t last and they will be as deadly as any of the new generation in a few years from now.</p>
<h2>Speaking Marathi in Mumbai</h2>
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<p id="font_text" class="txt"><strong>Karan Thapar:</strong><em> &#8230; First, the people who live in Mumbai should speak Marathi. Do you agree with that?</em></p>
<p id="font_text" class="txt"><strong>Shobhaa De:</strong> Well, if you go to West Bengal, Karan, do you hear anything but Bengali being spoken? Does anyone mind? You go to Karnataka, do you hear anything but Kannada being spoken? If you go to Tamil Nadu, do you hear anything but Tamil being spoken? So in that sense, may be a disconnect is happening in Mumbai. People think Mumbai belongs to all of India and therefore not parochially bound.</p>
<p id="font_text" class="txt"><strong>Karan Thapar:</strong><em> They are forgetting it’s a Maharashtrian city? </em></p>
<p id="font_text" class="txt"><strong>Shobhaa De:</strong> In a way, yes. Also, it’s a Maharashtrian city, people who choose to live there should learn and speak Marathi. If I were to make West Bengal my home, I jolly well learn Bengali. If I choose to live in Punjab, I should learn to speak in Punjabi. All the signages, all over India, happen to be in two languages, sometimes in three. You go anywhere in India, the signages are in local script. Why is it that Mumbai is being picked on for insisting on both signages – Devnagiri, which is also Marathi, and English.</p>
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<p>Ah. Now this is worth talking about.</p>
<h2>Is Mumbai a Maharashtrian city?</h2>
<p>Shobhaa De, MNS, Raj Thackeray, SHiv Sena and Maharashtrians are right when they say that in most big cities in India, the local language is the prevalent language. But it is not entirely right, too. Bangalore has a lot of outsiders, and they often speak in Hindi or English. But generally she is right when she talks about other cities and comapre them to Mumbai.</p>
<p>But.</p>
<p>Mumbai is, like it or not, so far, India&#8217;s only real cosmopolitan city. There is no other city like that in India. Not even Delhi.</p>
<p>(Well, Maharashtrians may not want it that way if that means Marathi culture may be destroyed by that cosmopolitan city &#8211; but that&#8217;s another article I am going to write later.)</p>
<p>It is a city where money speaks. It is, or was, as capitalist as one could get in India. In an aggressive business-oriented city, people speak what works. If all the CEOs in Mumbai, all the stock brokers, all the factory owners, all the IT company management were moneyed Maharashtrians, all their employees would be speaking in Marathi too. I know I would be.</p>
<h2>In Mumbai, money is the language</h2>
<p>There is something I once told a Maharashtrian friend. While discussing the language issue, I said, &#8220;See, you are a Maharashtrian. But I am Mallu. I am slowly learning Hindi and speaking it, but not Marathi. Why? Because apart from you and my colleagues here, I hear Marathi spoken by cops, <em>bai</em>s, coolies, bus drivers and conductors. I do not hear it being spoken by my CEO or any CEO. My interviews happen in English.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is <strong>not </strong>to insult the Marathi language. But it is the true state of affairs. It is a language with a rich cultural heritage, which I often suspect is superior than my mother-tongue. But I am here to make a life for myself, and I would choose the language which helps me do that. For me, in Mumbai, it was English and to a lesser extent, Hindi. Not Marathi, by a long stretch.</p>
<p>Mumbai, like all cosmopolitan cities, speaks what works. None of the other cities in Shobhaa&#8217;s list are cosmopolitan &#8211; and they are nowhere near Mumbai in anything. Sure, I can go to Thiruvananthapuram and speak all I want in Malayalam. But I am here because this is where I can make a life.</p>
<p>Respect is earned &#8211; not legislated.</p>
<p>Back to Shobhaa De now.</p>
<blockquote><p>Shobhaa De: You don’t hear Marathi in Mumbai anymore. You just don’t hear it. You try and ask for directions – stop anyone on the road – and chances are they’ll say we have no idea because we’ve come from UP or Bihar or wherever</p>
<p>Karan Thapar: So this, in a sense, irks Maharashtrians – the fact that in their capital you don’t hear Marathi, that UP-ites, Biharis and Punjabis seem to dominate irritates them.</p>
<p>&#8230;.</p>
<p>Shobhaa De: I would definitely say so because the educated may think it politically incorrect to state as much but the feeling lingers.</p>
<p>Karan Thapar: But not to the extent of dominate Maharashtrians in Maharashtra.</p>
<p>Shobhaa De: And pushing them out of their own capital.</p>
<p>Shobhaa De: When you have slogans written all over the walls in Mumbai saying, ‘UP hamari hai, ab Maharashtra ki baari hai’ (UP is ours, now for Maharahtra)</p></blockquote>
<p>Marathi is very much heard in Mumbai. Maybe Shobhaa De moves in elite circles where are there are not too many Maharashtrians. It is not heard enough to satisfy everyone for sure. But like I said before, in Mumbai, people do what works. If Maharashtrians are only 35 %, chances are, conversations would be in Hindi, Marathi and English. I can say that I hear English in Mumbai much less than Marathi &#8211; and as a financial capital, English should be heard more. What you hear is irrelevant if it works.</p>
<p>And I have stopped people on the road and asked for directions. People do not know where many places are because it is often confusing. It is only in small towns of India that everyone knows where every place is. The same happens in Delhi and Bangalore.</p>
<h2>Are Maharashtrians being pushed out of Mumbai?</h2>
<p>Nobody &#8216;pushes&#8217; Maharashtrians out of Mumbai. If I have a house to sell, and if a Mahrashtrian offers me more money than a South Indian or a Punjabi or a North Indian, I would sell it to him. If Maharashtrians are finding it difficult to stay in the city, that is because a lot of them are not doing financially as well as the newcomers.</p>
<p><strong>But that is capitalism. You have to fight and compete. And competing is new for Maharashtrians, but they are learning it.</strong></p>
<p>But the newcomers are definitely more driven than Maharashtrians, so it is natural. People who come from another place to make a life have more desire to really work hard and do it. People who were in a place for generations are not that aggressive in using every opportunity. It is pretty normal. Like I said, Maharashtrians are learning how to do that, and in another 10 or twenty years, a lot of Maharashtrians would be back as they can afford the cost of living. It is not great to hear, but again, thats how a growing city works. Blame capitalism if you want, but that&#8217;s all there is to it.</p>
<h2>SP and MNS slogan battles- its not against Maharashtrians, but against MNS</h2>
<p>The slogans? I don&#8217;t think those slogans are everywhere &#8211; but it is obviously a response by SP to MNS. SP is obviously trying to fish in troubled waters. It is a challenge by SP to MNS. It is not a challenger to Maharashtrians. Unfortunately, if we think we are with MNS, it would affect us. The way to deal with it is to ignore it. That is the rational way.</p>
<h2>Maharashtrian intellectuals and leadership</h2>
<blockquote><p>Karan Thapar: So you are saying that intellectuals either support Raj Thackeray or oppose him but don’t stay silent.</p>
<p>Shobhaa De: I am saying speak up, whatever your point of view is. You agree or you don’t, it’s not Raj Thackeray who’s the issue, it’s the pride of Maharashtra that’s at stake.</p></blockquote>
<p>It is because of the our goonda, your goonda mentality. Why do a lot of people support the Bajrang Dal even they are disgusted by their violence? They are our goondas. That&#8217;s why. Same goes for MNS. A lot of intellectuals understand the feelings of Maharashtrians, and they do not have a sensible Maharashtrian alternative to Raj Thackeray. Why are they not forming that alternative? Raj Thackeray&#8217;s (and Shiv Sena&#8217;s) reaction to public criticism of them would be to beat you up.</p>
<p>Street plays? Thrash them. Abuse them. Intellectuals are not used to dealing with things acording to the rules of the street &#8211; and that is where Thackerays excel. I would not want to be the intellectual who offers a criticism of  Thackeray and then get beaten up when I walk out of the house.  Kumar Ketkar, <em>editor</em> of leading Marathi daily <em>Loksatta </em>was attacked because he wrote what he thought was wasteful expenditure when there were bigger issues. MNS and Sena do not appreciate criticism, and you would not want to be at the receiving end. This is not a debating society &#8211; coherent arguments about pros and cons about Maharashtrian issues, and Sena-MNS tactics would be answered with a punch to the face.</p>
<h2>MNS (or Sena) is not Maharashtra</h2>
<p>My feeling is that Shobhaa De too has fallen prey to the us-or-them mentality. It is normal too. For those who think I am against her or Maharashtrians or MNS or Sena, I would like to clarify that this article is about the particular interview of Shobhaa De. It was written for the express purpose of debunking what she said.</p>
<p>My next article would be about the real problems of Maharashtrians. The way I see it, the jobs issue and the Marathi pride issue are not one issue, they are two. And I will tackle both of them soon.</p>
<p>A lot of Maharashtrians are making the mistake of identifying themselves with Sena or MNS. Just because someone says some things which appeal to you, that does not mean they are your representatives. Decent people can only be represented by other decent people.</p>
<p>There is no representative to the real Maharashtrian at this point, and there is a big market for one. A decent guy who understands and speaks to the Maharashtrians as well as others and who does not use violence as a means. It is only because such a personality is absent that Maharashtrians are forced to support the MNS or Sena. In my opinion, thats a mistake.</p>
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