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	<title>Comments on: Open letter to Taslima Nasrin tries to argue the unarguable</title>
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		<title>By: aadil</title>
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		<dc:creator>aadil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 09:48:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well according to me whoever says anything wrong or inappropriate about any religious belief should be aware of the fact that what they are saying has a firm proof or reason behind the claims. secondly the thing is that one should be self reliant in order to understand his religion and not be dependent upon any one else for that and thats the reason why all religions have their own scriptures so that the believers of that faith may refer to them. and as far as islam is concered it says in the holy quran that come to common terms as between us and u.and a religion having such an ideology can never promote any sort of violence and as far as the western media is concerned which is constantly doing things in order to degrade islam should be asked in an open challenge to fetch out any thing that is any verse from the quran or the hadith that is the authentic saying of the prophet muhammad peace be upon him,and i am sure as all other muslims are that it wont be able to bring out a single verse about violence promotion and wrong things as the west thinks about it and this is the best testimonial for for failing those who due to their lack of knowledge have these misconception and pray that god allah give all people of world sense of brotherhood irrespective of their religions and an attitude towards each other and life so as to maintain communal harmony across the world and peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well according to me whoever says anything wrong or inappropriate about any religious belief should be aware of the fact that what they are saying has a firm proof or reason behind the claims. secondly the thing is that one should be self reliant in order to understand his religion and not be dependent upon any one else for that and thats the reason why all religions have their own scriptures so that the believers of that faith may refer to them. and as far as islam is concered it says in the holy quran that come to common terms as between us and u.and a religion having such an ideology can never promote any sort of violence and as far as the western media is concerned which is constantly doing things in order to degrade islam should be asked in an open challenge to fetch out any thing that is any verse from the quran or the hadith that is the authentic saying of the prophet muhammad peace be upon him,and i am sure as all other muslims are that it wont be able to bring out a single verse about violence promotion and wrong things as the west thinks about it and this is the best testimonial for for failing those who due to their lack of knowledge have these misconception and pray that god allah give all people of world sense of brotherhood irrespective of their religions and an attitude towards each other and life so as to maintain communal harmony across the world and peace</p>
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		<title>By: Sharique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the late reply. As far as logic and religion goes, well there certain things which can&#039;t be explained by human logic but surprisingly most of the mundane affairs can be!

The only problem is that our scholars have left science. If you read history then you would observe that Muslim scholars were also masters of science...its all history now and the world have turned upside down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the late reply. As far as logic and religion goes, well there certain things which can&#8217;t be explained by human logic but surprisingly most of the mundane affairs can be!</p>
<p>The only problem is that our scholars have left science. If you read history then you would observe that Muslim scholars were also masters of science&#8230;its all history now and the world have turned upside down.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool, about the last line :D But then again, apparel is such a sensitive issue that I couldn&#039;t be sure!

If you are a man of science, how can you talk about faith and religion as logical? In fact, I don&#039;t think logic can be used to successfully argue on the merits or demerits of any religion. 

Specific to Islam, I remember the Pope once said something that created a lot of controversy among Christians and Muslims. He implied that there is logic in the basic nature of God in Christianity, and its not there in Islam. (Very stupid of him to say that I think!) But in the ensuing debate, I have read arguments which said that in Islam, God&#039;s logic is not something which is comprehensible to or identifiable as human logic... I was quite intrigued by that. But I think there were Muslim scholars were divided on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool, about the last line <img src='http://www.dancewithshadows.com/extra/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  But then again, apparel is such a sensitive issue that I couldn&#8217;t be sure!</p>
<p>If you are a man of science, how can you talk about faith and religion as logical? In fact, I don&#8217;t think logic can be used to successfully argue on the merits or demerits of any religion. </p>
<p>Specific to Islam, I remember the Pope once said something that created a lot of controversy among Christians and Muslims. He implied that there is logic in the basic nature of God in Christianity, and its not there in Islam. (Very stupid of him to say that I think!) But in the ensuing debate, I have read arguments which said that in Islam, God&#8217;s logic is not something which is comprehensible to or identifiable as human logic&#8230; I was quite intrigued by that. But I think there were Muslim scholars were divided on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sharique</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sharique</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 19:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The variation in the spelling of her name is accidental. I didn&#039;t have any SEO in mind while writing that :)
Here are my explanations
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Umm, so who does the aunt dislike? Muslims or Bengalis?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Both, Muslim Bengalis. You are confusing between Muslims and Islam. I mentioned that my aunt developed hatred for Muslims but she was sensible enough not to hatred Islam. There is difference between the two. My only point is that every act of Muslims cannot be taken in conformity with Islam and hence the religion maligned.
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So? Their choice, her choice, isn’t it?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yes definitely their choice. I mentioned that so as to make her realise that she hasn&#039;t seen the worst of Muslims.
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Some of the people who manipulate religion are very smart at it. The rest truly believe that what they say and do is what their religion dictates them&lt;/blockquote&gt;
No they are not. OBL and his associates have not manipulated the religion for personal gains. Political motive was the guiding force. If they would have been smart then they would have done so for personal gains. Its just that they are extremists who give no importance to life. Establishing Khilafah is their motive, even if that means killing millions. 
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She has an English translation, and he has an English translation. Which is right?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
One of the most difficult part of understanding, for us-non Arabic speakers,&#160;the Quran is Arabic language. We tend to rely on authentic translations. The thing is that she deliberately articulated her quotes so as to make it venomous. She was trying to prove her point. And as far as my limited knowledge of Islam is concerned, well I have learned for the sake of following it and not criticizing it (you tend to be too prejudiced if you learn something with the intention of criticizing it, isn&#039;t it?)
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Why? Religion is a matter of faith, not logic as far as I know.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
For a man of science like me, everything is logical.
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However, I am sure Taslima believes that she can trash the &lt;em&gt;huffaz &lt;/em&gt;and &lt;em&gt;alims&lt;/em&gt;, and religious scholars from all religions generally are confident that they can all trash each others’ beliefs&lt;/blockquote&gt;
She can&#039;t even write well..forget about arguing well. She doesn&#039;t have an understanding of the religion and this is based on my observation. Has she ever taken part in a debate? At least people like Irashad Manji so take part in debates and she indeed has softened over the years. There are so convincing arguments that they cannot reply because their replies are based on flawed logic. I am not getting into the details here.
And the last line was in jest. You are reading too much into it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The variation in the spelling of her name is accidental. I didn&#8217;t have any SEO in mind while writing that <img src='http://www.dancewithshadows.com/extra/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Here are my explanations</p>
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Umm, so who does the aunt dislike? Muslims or Bengalis?</p></blockquote>
<p>Both, Muslim Bengalis. You are confusing between Muslims and Islam. I mentioned that my aunt developed hatred for Muslims but she was sensible enough not to hatred Islam. There is difference between the two. My only point is that every act of Muslims cannot be taken in conformity with Islam and hence the religion maligned.</p>
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So? Their choice, her choice, isn’t it?</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes definitely their choice. I mentioned that so as to make her realise that she hasn&#8217;t seen the worst of Muslims.</p>
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Some of the people who manipulate religion are very smart at it. The rest truly believe that what they say and do is what their religion dictates them</p></blockquote>
<p>No they are not. OBL and his associates have not manipulated the religion for personal gains. Political motive was the guiding force. If they would have been smart then they would have done so for personal gains. Its just that they are extremists who give no importance to life. Establishing Khilafah is their motive, even if that means killing millions. </p>
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She has an English translation, and he has an English translation. Which is right?</p></blockquote>
<p>One of the most difficult part of understanding, for us-non Arabic speakers,&nbsp;the Quran is Arabic language. We tend to rely on authentic translations. The thing is that she deliberately articulated her quotes so as to make it venomous. She was trying to prove her point. And as far as my limited knowledge of Islam is concerned, well I have learned for the sake of following it and not criticizing it (you tend to be too prejudiced if you learn something with the intention of criticizing it, isn&#8217;t it?)</p>
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Why? Religion is a matter of faith, not logic as far as I know.</p></blockquote>
<p>For a man of science like me, everything is logical.</p>
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However, I am sure Taslima believes that she can trash the <em>huffaz </em>and <em>alims</em>, and religious scholars from all religions generally are confident that they can all trash each others’ beliefs</p></blockquote>
<p>She can&#8217;t even write well..forget about arguing well. She doesn&#8217;t have an understanding of the religion and this is based on my observation. Has she ever taken part in a debate? At least people like Irashad Manji so take part in debates and she indeed has softened over the years. There are so convincing arguments that they cannot reply because their replies are based on flawed logic. I am not getting into the details here.<br />
And the last line was in jest. You are reading too much into it.</p>
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