Open letter to Taslima Nasrin tries to argue the unarguable

At least that is what I think. Sharique has written an open letter to the firebrand atheist (and anti-Islamist) writer on indianmuslims.in

I have a few problems with it, though.

Before that, just how does she spell her name? In the Indianmuslims.in post, her name is mentioned as both Nasrin and Nasreen – and strangely, even her website does the same thing. An attempt to get visitors through search engines by both? Or a genuine error? Anyway as this post too mentions both the versions, I think even I would get some extra visitors!

Now to the actual letter.

Sharique talks about an aunt who barely escaped from Bengali Muslim rioters. Somehow he confuses stuff here.

Little girl somehow survived the attack. But she developed a deep rooted hatred for Muslims.

And in the next paragraph, he says:

Anyone would have developed hatred for Islam but she didn’t. Her hatred was more directed at Bengalis.

Umm, so who does the aunt dislike? Muslims or Bengalis?

Sharique then goes on to say thus:

The reason why I mentioned this story was to prove that actions of few cannot be taken of the whole community.

It doesn’t prove anything of the sort, Sharique. Bengalis are a community too, so the story just says that one community was not the target of the aunt’s hatred but another one.

…there are people who have perhaps seen worse than you but are still practicing Muslims.

So? Their choice, her choice, isn’t it? Or the point he is trying to make is that some people did not get angry enough to reject their religion, so Taslima should do so too? Everyone has their own ways of dealing with trajedy, and one way is not necessarily better than the other.

Why should you blame the religion for acts of few morons who are trying to manipulate religion for their own needs. Quran has been misinterpreted to extract political mileage out of it.

Valid point. But I don’t think they are morons. Some of the people who manipulate religion are very smart at it. The rest truly believe that what they say and do is what their religion dictates them. So it is a matter of faith. Quran has been misinterpreted; so have all other religions’ texts. But when misinterpretation is an everyday thing – and there are large numbers of people and mullahs / priests doing it, how is one to know what is the authoritative version of the instructions? I am sure there are a few Muslims who would think even the letter to Taslima Nasrin is an offence, and the writer should be punished for even trying to reason it out with her. How is a third-party to know if they are right or wrong according to the religion?

I must also tell you that most of your logic against Islam is based on your limited knowledge. I have replied once (Answering Taslima Nasrin) to your article in Outlook. If a person like me, who is a novice as far as Islamic knowledge is concerned, can refute your claims then imagine your situation in front of learned men. You are not achieving anything by your critique of Islam.

Hey hey. Not so fast. I am sure Taslima Nasrin would reply to the first line saying that Sharique’s logic for Islam is based on his limited knowledge! :D

I read Sharique’s answer to Taslima on his personal blog. She has an English translation, and he has an English translation. Which is right? I am sure they both would stand by their translations. They can both refer back to the original in Arabic, but I am sure if you put two Mullahs in a room, they would fight over it to, with their differing interpretations. And one might even declare the other an infidel.

Sorry, Sharique. You have not proved anything in your post. You have just offered a counter-point, and it might be right or wrong. And I am sure there will be many who take both sides.

Again, Sharique rushes ahead assuming too many things.

See I am just asking you to think and argue logically…

Why? Religion is a matter of faith, not logic as far as I know.

Islam is too big a thing to understand, particularly by an individual based on self study, and nothing can deter the Quran and Hadeeth.

That is the point of view of a believer, and believer only. A Christian can say the same thing about Bible, and a Muslim can refute that if he wants. I am sure another believer would agree to that, but Taslima is not a believer. Who is Sharique talking to?

I am sure you know that the safety of Quran (along with the safety of Mecca) has been guaranteed by Allah (SWT). No one can change a word in the holy book. The various huffaz (people who have memorized the Quran by heart) and alims can trash your criticism of Islam.

I don’t know about the first part of that paragraph, so I am not touching that issue. However, I am sure Taslima believes that she can trash the huffaz and alims, and religious scholars from all religions generally are confident that they can all trash each others’ beliefs. And that athiests believe they can trash all of them together. That is just a boast, Sharique. The same kind of boast believers in every religion routinely make.

I like Sharique’s requestto Taslima to reconsider her decision, though. Such innocence still brings tears to my eyes.

But the ending was on a bad note I think.  Sharique asks Taslima not to wear a particular pair of jeans which he calls ‘crappy’. First, is calling a woman’s attire ‘crappy’ is islamic? I don’t know… Two, are true believers allowed to comment on a woman’s attire? (I am sure any two scholars would have totally opposing opinions on that!). And three, is the objection only to this pair of jeans, or to jeans in general, or to women wearing jeans? Perhaps a short skirt would get his approval?

4 Responses to “Open letter to Taslima Nasrin tries to argue the unarguable”

  1. The variation in the spelling of her name is accidental. I didn’t have any SEO in mind while writing that :)
    Here are my explanations

    Umm, so who does the aunt dislike? Muslims or Bengalis?

    Both, Muslim Bengalis. You are confusing between Muslims and Islam. I mentioned that my aunt developed hatred for Muslims but she was sensible enough not to hatred Islam. There is difference between the two. My only point is that every act of Muslims cannot be taken in conformity with Islam and hence the religion maligned.

    So? Their choice, her choice, isn’t it?

    Yes definitely their choice. I mentioned that so as to make her realise that she hasn’t seen the worst of Muslims.

    Some of the people who manipulate religion are very smart at it. The rest truly believe that what they say and do is what their religion dictates them

    No they are not. OBL and his associates have not manipulated the religion for personal gains. Political motive was the guiding force. If they would have been smart then they would have done so for personal gains. Its just that they are extremists who give no importance to life. Establishing Khilafah is their motive, even if that means killing millions.

    She has an English translation, and he has an English translation. Which is right?

    One of the most difficult part of understanding, for us-non Arabic speakers, the Quran is Arabic language. We tend to rely on authentic translations. The thing is that she deliberately articulated her quotes so as to make it venomous. She was trying to prove her point. And as far as my limited knowledge of Islam is concerned, well I have learned for the sake of following it and not criticizing it (you tend to be too prejudiced if you learn something with the intention of criticizing it, isn’t it?)

    Why? Religion is a matter of faith, not logic as far as I know.

    For a man of science like me, everything is logical.

    However, I am sure Taslima believes that she can trash the huffaz and alims, and religious scholars from all religions generally are confident that they can all trash each others’ beliefs

    She can’t even write well..forget about arguing well. She doesn’t have an understanding of the religion and this is based on my observation. Has she ever taken part in a debate? At least people like Irashad Manji so take part in debates and she indeed has softened over the years. There are so convincing arguments that they cannot reply because their replies are based on flawed logic. I am not getting into the details here.
    And the last line was in jest. You are reading too much into it.

  2. Cool, about the last line :D But then again, apparel is such a sensitive issue that I couldn’t be sure!

    If you are a man of science, how can you talk about faith and religion as logical? In fact, I don’t think logic can be used to successfully argue on the merits or demerits of any religion.

    Specific to Islam, I remember the Pope once said something that created a lot of controversy among Christians and Muslims. He implied that there is logic in the basic nature of God in Christianity, and its not there in Islam. (Very stupid of him to say that I think!) But in the ensuing debate, I have read arguments which said that in Islam, God’s logic is not something which is comprehensible to or identifiable as human logic… I was quite intrigued by that. But I think there were Muslim scholars were divided on the issue.

  3. Sorry for the late reply. As far as logic and religion goes, well there certain things which can’t be explained by human logic but surprisingly most of the mundane affairs can be!

    The only problem is that our scholars have left science. If you read history then you would observe that Muslim scholars were also masters of science…its all history now and the world have turned upside down.

  4. well according to me whoever says anything wrong or inappropriate about any religious belief should be aware of the fact that what they are saying has a firm proof or reason behind the claims. secondly the thing is that one should be self reliant in order to understand his religion and not be dependent upon any one else for that and thats the reason why all religions have their own scriptures so that the believers of that faith may refer to them. and as far as islam is concered it says in the holy quran that come to common terms as between us and u.and a religion having such an ideology can never promote any sort of violence and as far as the western media is concerned which is constantly doing things in order to degrade islam should be asked in an open challenge to fetch out any thing that is any verse from the quran or the hadith that is the authentic saying of the prophet muhammad peace be upon him,and i am sure as all other muslims are that it wont be able to bring out a single verse about violence promotion and wrong things as the west thinks about it and this is the best testimonial for for failing those who due to their lack of knowledge have these misconception and pray that god allah give all people of world sense of brotherhood irrespective of their religions and an attitude towards each other and life so as to maintain communal harmony across the world and peace

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